Comments on: LF24 More, Black Temple http://www.parttimedruid.com/2008/07/14/lf24-more-black-temple/ Just another WordPress site Sat, 25 Dec 2010 07:05:14 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1 By: Rhad http://www.parttimedruid.com/2008/07/14/lf24-more-black-temple/#comment-397 Rhad Wed, 16 Jul 2008 16:43:32 +0000 http://parttimedruid.com/?p=100#comment-397 Hey Pummra, my first time visiting. Quite impressive! All in all, I mostly agree with your desire to finish T5 content. I certainly felt that and expressed it in the slack forum, when Hyjal was first put on the calendar. What I have later found out is that MANY guilds skip Vashj, since it is such an intricate fight. And, as you know, with us having so many people sliding in/out of raiding, it is all the harder for us to handle anything that requires knowledge (ugh). Just as we get a boss sorta figured out, we get 5+ new people that are clueless. Sorta, "if guilds that are large enough to run SSC in-house skip Vashj, how can we expect an alliance to do it?" As for needing 9k UNBUFFED health, I certainly won't be there. Who knows, maybe the RL won't let me go, but I doubt it. As I said in my post, I'll take Knowledge/Preparation/Skill over stats every day of the week, especially for a healer. As long as we are 10k+ buffed health, we'll be fine. BTW, with Hammer switching to elemental, I've sorta taken on the role of organizing the healers. One cool new technological advance is that I figured out how I can "whisper" to the healers via TeamSpeak. No one in the general raid hears what I say, except for the people in my whisper group. Everyone has been happy with the addition, though I'm sure they are getting sick of my play-by-play at times. ;) I've been called Howard Cosell already! It really has helped deal with healing tactics, for instance, we are losing almost no DPS on the mob waves in Hyjal. The only disadvantage is that you can't whisper back to me. Well, you can, but you have to jerry-rig TS into doing it. It's not difficult, but though some people expressed an interest in learning how to set it up for themselves, once they found out it requires a separate push-to-talk, and modifcation/maintenance each time the healing team changes during/between raids, no one has persued it. Looking forward to raiding with you! Haven't teamed up with you in a month+ :( Hey Pummra, my first time visiting. Quite impressive! All in all, I mostly agree with your desire to finish T5 content. I certainly felt that and expressed it in the slack forum, when Hyjal was first put on the calendar. What I have later found out is that MANY guilds skip Vashj, since it is such an intricate fight. And, as you know, with us having so many people sliding in/out of raiding, it is all the harder for us to handle anything that requires knowledge (ugh). Just as we get a boss sorta figured out, we get 5+ new people that are clueless. Sorta, “if guilds that are large enough to run SSC in-house skip Vashj, how can we expect an alliance to do it?”

As for needing 9k UNBUFFED health, I certainly won’t be there. Who knows, maybe the RL won’t let me go, but I doubt it. As I said in my post, I’ll take Knowledge/Preparation/Skill over stats every day of the week, especially for a healer. As long as we are 10k+ buffed health, we’ll be fine.

BTW, with Hammer switching to elemental, I’ve sorta taken on the role of organizing the healers. One cool new technological advance is that I figured out how I can “whisper” to the healers via TeamSpeak. No one in the general raid hears what I say, except for the people in my whisper group. Everyone has been happy with the addition, though I’m sure they are getting sick of my play-by-play at times. ;) I’ve been called Howard Cosell already! It really has helped deal with healing tactics, for instance, we are losing almost no DPS on the mob waves in Hyjal.

The only disadvantage is that you can’t whisper back to me. Well, you can, but you have to jerry-rig TS into doing it. It’s not difficult, but though some people expressed an interest in learning how to set it up for themselves, once they found out it requires a separate push-to-talk, and modifcation/maintenance each time the healing team changes during/between raids, no one has persued it.

Looking forward to raiding with you! Haven’t teamed up with you in a month+ :(

]]> By: Rhene http://www.parttimedruid.com/2008/07/14/lf24-more-black-temple/#comment-392 Rhene Tue, 15 Jul 2008 18:45:29 +0000 http://parttimedruid.com/?p=100#comment-392 Sometimes you have to ask yourself, is it worth rushing to differnt/new content at the expense of becoming frustrated. I'm hoping more 10 man content in wotlk can put to bed some of these issues. I also agree that they shouldn't do away with keying for some of the top dungeons. Sometimes you have to ask yourself, is it worth rushing to differnt/new content at the expense of becoming frustrated. I’m hoping more 10 man content in wotlk can put to bed some of these issues.

I also agree that they shouldn’t do away with keying for some of the top dungeons.

]]> By: becker http://www.parttimedruid.com/2008/07/14/lf24-more-black-temple/#comment-391 becker Tue, 15 Jul 2008 10:53:35 +0000 http://parttimedruid.com/?p=100#comment-391 that 9k (better 10k) u need for the first boss in BT can be a nasty thing to achieve (most of all if u don't have any pvp equip). i had some probs with my shadow at that point, but thanks to buff food (+30 stamina) i did it somehow. http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33052 or http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27667 are my recommendations here :) good luck and have fun! that 9k (better 10k) u need for the first boss in BT can be a nasty thing to achieve (most of all if u don’t have any pvp equip). i had some probs with my shadow at that point, but thanks to buff food (+30 stamina) i did it somehow.
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=33052 or
http://www.wowhead.com/?item=27667 are my recommendations here :)
good luck and have fun!

]]> By: brunen http://www.parttimedruid.com/2008/07/14/lf24-more-black-temple/#comment-390 brunen Tue, 15 Jul 2008 09:32:25 +0000 http://parttimedruid.com/?p=100#comment-390 "Why you would announce that you’re looking for more when you have neither of the most important classes, I have no idea." Maybe because the healer and tank can be counted as "more"? And if you didn't advertise, you'd never get them? Sitting in LFG can be both long and frustrating so being proactive can only be better, surely? “Why you would announce that you’re looking for more when you have neither of the most important classes, I have no idea.”

Maybe because the healer and tank can be counted as “more”? And if you didn’t advertise, you’d never get them? Sitting in LFG can be both long and frustrating so being proactive can only be better, surely?

]]> By: evilgem http://www.parttimedruid.com/2008/07/14/lf24-more-black-temple/#comment-389 evilgem Mon, 14 Jul 2008 21:25:39 +0000 http://parttimedruid.com/?p=100#comment-389 this is actually becoming more of a common occurance since the removal of attunements to MH and BT. More groups are not bothering to finish out SSC and TK infavor of rushing MH to get "phat lewtz". The biggest downslide to all of this is the lack of experiance that ppl gain from actually completing those places. What seems to happen is that a core group of the run gets thier gear and then is bored. They dont want to run it anymore because its just a long night of repair bills. So they bail for hyjal, the first two bosses are rather easy (if you have enough aoe), and they think the whole run is gonna be a cakewalk. Epseically if they are getting their strat from a guild that has the place on farm (and had ssc and tk on farm, which means their entire group was fully geared already and able to walk in and wtfomgbbqwhowantsseconds?pwn the place). But the ugly side is that 1/2 the run is mostly geared correctly, the other 1/2 isnt geared properly, theres gonna be a lotta wiping, a lotta complaining, and suddenly a whole lotta no more raiding because ppl are bummed that 1;) they spend too much money on repairs, 2.) they arent getting any new loot, 3.) its a pain in the @$$. I wish ya luck and hope it works out. this is actually becoming more of a common occurance since the removal of attunements to MH and BT. More groups are not bothering to finish out SSC and TK infavor of rushing MH to get “phat lewtz”.

The biggest downslide to all of this is the lack of experiance that ppl gain from actually completing those places. What seems to happen is that a core group of the run gets thier gear and then is bored. They dont want to run it anymore because its just a long night of repair bills. So they bail for hyjal, the first two bosses are rather easy (if you have enough aoe), and they think the whole run is gonna be a cakewalk. Epseically if they are getting their strat from a guild that has the place on farm (and had ssc and tk on farm, which means their entire group was fully geared already and able to walk in and wtfomgbbqwhowantsseconds?pwn the place).

But the ugly side is that 1/2 the run is mostly geared correctly, the other 1/2 isnt geared properly, theres gonna be a lotta wiping, a lotta complaining, and suddenly a whole lotta no more raiding because ppl are bummed that 1;) they spend too much money on repairs, 2.) they arent getting any new loot, 3.) its a pain in the @$$.

I wish ya luck and hope it works out.

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